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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #125 on: May 03, 2010, 11:03:52 PM »
Chris Duffy had a great physique, a shame what happened to him.  :'(

What happened to him?  ???

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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #126 on: May 21, 2010, 10:43:01 AM »
from my mailbag:

Hi there, I noticed you know a lot about gay muscle escorts. Do you know what percentage of the amateur bodybuilders do some form of gay for pay, and what the best way of approaching them would be? Thanks.
                                              --name withheld


This is an email I got a couple days ago.  It came directly to me via email so I don’t know how he found me.   Presumably from getgay.  This email underscores one of the interesting things about escorts and johns.  No matter how many guys have done it, crashed, burned, or died, there are always fresh young guys (johns and BBs) waiting in the wings to take their place.  Sort of like bodybuilding.  :-\
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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #127 on: May 22, 2010, 02:33:37 PM »
from my mailbag:

hey bay... i wasn't sure who to ask but you seemed like the most knowledgeable. How do i go by stripping/escort/etc for $? I'm an npc competitor and am in good shape 5'7'' 227 (on empty), Any info would be greatly appreciate.

I sent him a cautionary reply and then got the following…

...I'm doing it, like for friend, to make some quick cash. Its for my uncle's surgery (he can't afford it/no insurance) so i need to help him out asap. Hope all is good with you and i'll tell you how it went.
                                                               --name withheld

"I'm escorting in order to raise money for my sick friend"?  ???  I suppose this is what Chick would call G4Charity.  You can't make this stuff up folks!  :-\
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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #128 on: May 22, 2010, 07:51:53 PM »
omg bay, the emails and pm's you must get..GOODNESS

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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #129 on: May 22, 2010, 09:11:18 PM »
I swear it is all true!

One email that surprised me came from a bodybuilder (not a famous one) who was mad that I posted his photo in one of the schmoe threads.  He asked me to remove his photo from that thread and not mention his name in connection with it again.  I did as he asked and deleted his photo.

You'd be surprised who reads (the sex forums on) getbig. :-\
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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #130 on: June 07, 2010, 12:19:27 AM »
 Bodybuilding started in Ancient Greece, where mature men over 50 would go to the gymnasiums and masturbate while watching 17 year-old youths, called epkookaburras at that time, wrestling naked. That's where the fetichisation of the male physique started. Wealthy, powerful Greek aristocrats would even give vases and other expensive gifts to the most good-looking boys, and make them their "bitch". There are vases from Greek art that show good-looking youth half-naked flexing their muscles to the lusting eyes of an older man. Bobybuilding is gay. Gay. Gay. Gay.


The classicist has spoken.  ;)



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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #131 on: June 07, 2010, 06:23:18 AM »
WTF is this pick on a greek week...yasou..

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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #132 on: July 11, 2010, 06:57:29 PM »
Is Rev. Fr. BayGBM gone for good?  :(

Shame, he had amusing and interesting posts.

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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #133 on: July 12, 2010, 03:40:13 PM »
I suspect he'll return once he learns where he is appreciated.
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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #134 on: April 10, 2011, 05:20:58 PM »
Dear Rev. Fr. BayGBM,

MuscleWeek rejoices for your glorious return.

Now you can go on exposing the subtle (and not-so-subtle) gay themes in our beloved sport.

Amen

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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #135 on: October 28, 2011, 09:01:44 AM »
From another forum....

. . . Even before his murder trial, Craig Titus admitted that he only did bodybuilding "for the ladies," in order to make himself more sexually attractive to the fitness babes that hung around the Mecca gyms of Venice Beach.  Of course, Craig also kept in shape to earn money for "private sessions" with wealthy gay men usually many years older than him.
 
In the months leading up to the murder of Melissa James, Craig admitted to enjoying smoking cigarettes while lying on the couch watching TV, usually blowing off workouts most days of the week.
 
In Craig's plea for mercy at his sentencing, he admitted that he had a severe crystal meth addiction and often wasn't able to think rationally.  Apparently, however, after a few crystal meth pipe sessions, Craig was able to get off the couch to train and entertain gay male schmoes.
 
I suspect that, since there are no ladies for him to keep up his bodybuilding for in prison and no gay male schmoes for him to entertain for money, Craig is back to smoking cigarettes and watching TV whenever he has the privilege to do so.  I would imagine if you saw him today, you'd never believe he'd worked out for years, let alone have been a competitive professional bodybuilder. - Thor 

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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #136 on: February 05, 2012, 01:53:27 PM »
The other day someone asked me to name some good gay films.  Here are some to chew on.

Mildred Pierce (1945)
Suddenly, Last Summer (1959)
Paris is Burning (1990)
The Celluloid Closet (1995)
Big Eden (2000)
Paragraph 175 (2000)
Far From Heaven (2002)
Latter Days (2003)
The Adonis Factor (2010)

All are available via Netflix.  As a gymrat, the Adonis Factor is probably one you might identify with but they are all interesting.  Some are documentaries others are traditional drama.  Also Check out "101 Must-See Movies for Gay Men" at your local library or on Amazon.com


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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2012, 07:42:37 PM »

 Bay,


 Hypothetically speaking.  Go back in time and remove every single gay man from the past 50 years. Just make them all magically disappear.

 Now.  Illustrate to us what the bodybuilding industry would have turned into.  Describe the new industry.




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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #138 on: February 09, 2012, 09:21:55 PM »
It depends on how you define “gay.”  Remember, most of the guys who are into bodybuilding are not like me.  I suspect that most openly gay men are not interested on bodybuilding and to the extent that they are, they are perfectly comfortable going out and watching explicit muscle porn, or hooking up with huge guys in the gay world (gyms, clubs, sex clubs, escorts, etc.) 

The true hardcore bodybuilding fan is a bicurious “straight” guy who would never feel comfortable doing the above so he patronizes bodybuilding under the guys of “inspiration.”  He subscribes to muscle magazines, attends shows and expos, and has a library of muscle videos ostensibly because he wants to improve his own physique.

If you eliminatee the bicurious straight guy then the bodybuilding industry would no longer exist.
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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #139 on: February 12, 2012, 09:45:19 PM »
Jeff Long:

"Thanks guys for respecting my decision. I understand the mental toughness it takes to diet lift and compete. Its to the point its not really fun anymore. If your not hooked up to the best sponsors or sucking dick your not placing well even if your in shape. Its like even when I surprised everyone at nationals coming in shredded and winning beating every guy that beat be at the USA's I Was so happy and then i got a magazine contract thinking being the most improved BBer going from not placing to winning which nobody has done I would have got a cover shot at the least but I get a 5 month contract then dropped because my body was beat down and wanting to take a break but wasn't aloud to so I end up having the worst year ever as a pro.

Its my rookie year that I can never re-do. I know I have what it takes to be a top pro I know this for a fact because I see myself in the mirror every day HA HA. Maybe its just a phase Im going through Idk. Im more then healthy tho ,married life is great and tuesday I have a meeting with a casting agent which Im very excited about. How about someone start a poll on who thinks I should compete in NY and based off that Ill decide to get my head together for it ...."


The witness is excused.  :-X

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« Reply #140 on: November 13, 2012, 12:00:33 AM »
from my mailbag today:

...I saw your pics.  I really want to service you.  I'm a good dick sucker; would love to be on my knees for you for a few hours.  I can host on weekdays during the day while my girlfriend is at work and a few weekday evenings too.  Let me know...

And he included photos.  Why do so many guys with girlfriends want to suck me off?  ???

You can't make this stuff up folks! :-\

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« Reply #141 on: November 13, 2012, 12:09:24 AM »
How could you betray me like this  :-X
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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #142 on: December 30, 2012, 02:20:10 PM »

 Bay.

 Mirror Mirror on the wall who was the most closeted gay (bodybuilder) of them all?

 In your opinion.



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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #143 on: January 06, 2013, 05:30:53 PM »
Bay.

 Mirror Mirror on the wall who was the most closeted gay (bodybuilder) of them all?

 In your opinion.

 - Block!

That is something of a trick questions because it depends on how you define gay.  Some have suggested that merely participating in thong contest for an audience of cheering men is pretty gay.  Meanwhile you had guys like Nasser and Craig advertising their products (Nasser) and services (Titus) on the internet for everyone to see.  That's not very closeted, to be sure, but it is possible to do things in plain sight and many people seem not to notice.  I specifically recall Craig's old web pages and they were pretty explicit about what he offered.  Yet as far as everyone was concerned he was as straight as an arrow.

So many pros and wannabes have traded their bodies and sex with men for money it hardly seems worth listing them all.  From nobodies like Mike D. to Olympia competitors like Lee P.  Does doing that qualify as "closeted gay"?  ::)
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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #144 on: January 21, 2013, 09:03:48 PM »
Russia moves to enact anti-gay law nationwide
By MANSUR MIROVALEV

MOSCOW (AP) — Kissing his boyfriend during a protest in front of Russia's parliament earned Pavel Samburov 30 hours of detention and the equivalent of a $16 fine on a charge of "hooliganism." But if a bill that comes up for a first vote later this month becomes law, such a public kiss could be defined as illegal "homosexual propaganda" and bring a fine of up to $16,000.

The legislation being pushed by the Kremlin and the Russian Orthodox Church would make it illegal nationwide to provide minors with information that is defined as "propaganda of sodomy, lesbianism, bisexuality and transgenderism." It includes a ban on holding public events that promote gay rights. St. Petersburg and a number of other Russian cities already have similar laws on their books.

The bill is part of an effort to promote traditional Russian values as opposed to Western liberalism, which the Kremlin and church see as corrupting Russian youth and by extension contributing to a wave of protest against President Vladimir Putin's rule.

Samburov describes the anti-gay bill as part of a Kremlin crackdown on minorities of any kind — political and religious as well as sexual — designed to divert public attention from growing discontent with Putin's rule.

The lanky and longhaired Samburov is the founder of the Rainbow Association, which unites gay activists throughout Russia. The gay rights group has joined anti-Putin marches in Moscow over the past year, its rainbow flag waving along with those of other opposition groups.

Other laws that the Kremlin says are intended to protect young Russians have been hastily adopted in recent months, including some that allow banning and blocking web content and print publications that are deemed "extremist" or unfit for young audiences.

Denis Volkov, a sociologist with the Levada Center, an independent pollster, says the anti-gay bill fits the "general logic" of a government intent on limiting various rights.

But in this case, the move has been met mostly with either indifference or open enthusiasm by average Russians. Levada polls conducted last year show that almost two thirds of Russians find homosexuality "morally unacceptable and worth condemning." About half are against gay rallies and same-sex marriage; almost a third think homosexuality is the result of "a sickness or a psychological trauma," the Levada surveys show.

Russia's widespread hostility to homosexuality is shared by the political and religious elite.

Lawmakers have accused gays of decreasing Russia's already low birth rates and said they should be barred from government jobs, undergo forced medical treatment or be exiled. Orthodox activists criticized U.S. company PepsiCo for using a "gay" rainbow on cartons of its dairy products. An executive with a government-run television network said in a nationally televised talk show that gays should be prohibited from donating blood, sperm and organs for transplants, while after death their hearts should be burned or buried.

The anti-gay sentiment was seen Sunday in Voronezh, a city south of Moscow, where a handful of gay activists protesting against the parliament bill were attacked by a much larger group of anti-gay activists who hit them with snowballs.

The gay rights protest that won Samburov a fine took place in December. Seconds after Samburov and his boyfriend kissed, militant activists with the Orthodox Church pelted them with eggs. Police intervened, rounding up the gay activists and keeping them for 30 hours first in a frozen van and then in an unheated detention center. The Orthodox activists were also rounded up, but were released much earlier.

Those behind the bill say minors need to be protected from "homosexual propaganda" because they are unable to evaluate the information critically. "This propaganda goes through the mass media and public events that propagate homosexuality as normal behavior," the bill reads.

Cities started adopting anti-gay laws in 2006. Only one person has been prosecuted so far under a law specifically targeted at gays: Nikolai Alexeyev, a gay rights campaigner, was fined the equivalent of $160 after a one-man protest last summer in St. Petersburg.

In November, a St. Petersburg court dismissed a lawsuit filed by the Trade Union of Russian Citizens, a small group of Orthodox conservatives and Putin loyalists, against pop star Madonna. The group sought $10.7 million in damages for what it says was "propaganda of perversion" when Madonna spoke up for gay rights during a show three months earlier.

The federal bill's expected adoption comes 20 years after a Stalinist-era law punishing homosexuality with up to five years in prison was removed from Russia's penal code as part of the democratic reforms that followed the Soviet Union's collapse.

Most of the other former Soviet republics also decriminalized homosexuality, and attitudes toward gays have become a litmus test of democratic freedoms. While gay pride parades are held in the three former Soviet Baltic states, all today members of the European Union, same-sex love remains a crime in authoritarian Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.

In Russia, gays have been whipsawed by official pressure and persistent homophobia. There are no reliable estimates of how many gays and lesbians live in Russia, and only a few big cities such as Moscow and St. Petersburg have gay nightclubs and gyms. Even there, gays do not feel secure.

When a dozen masked men entered a Moscow night club during a "coming out party" that campaigner Samburov organized in October, he thought they were part of the show. But then one of the masked men yelled, "Have you ordered up a fight? Here you go!" The men overturned tables, smashed dishes and beat, kicked and sprayed mace at the five dozen men and women who had gathered at the gay-friendly Freedays club, Samburov and the club's administration said.

Four club patrons were injured, including a young woman who got broken glass in her eye, police said. Although a police station was nearby, Samburov said, it took police officers half an hour to arrive. The attackers remain unidentified.

On the next day, an Orthodox priest said he regretted that his religious role had not allowed him to participate in the beating.

"Until this scum gets off of Russian land, I fully share the views of those who are trying to purge our motherland of it," Rev. Sergiy Rybko was quoted as saying by the Orthodoxy and World online magazine. "We either become a tolerant Western state where everything is allowed — and lose our Christianity and moral foundations — or we will be a Christian people who live in our God-protected land in purity and godliness."

In other parts of Russia, gays feel even less secure. Bagaudin Abduljalilov moved to Moscow from Dagestan, a predominantly Muslim region in southern Russia where he says some gays have been beaten and had their hands cut off, sometimes by their own relatives, for bringing shame on their families.

"You don't have any human rights down there," he said. "Anything can be done to you with impunity."

Shortly before moving to Moscow, Abduljalilov left Islam to become a Protestant Christian, but was expelled from a seminary after telling the dean he was gay. He also has had trouble finding a job as a television journalist because of discrimination against people from Dagestan.
"I love Russia, but I want another Russia," said Abduljalilov, 30, who now works as a clerk. "It's a pity I can't spend my life on creative projects instead of banging my head against the wall and repeating, 'I'm normal, I'm normal.' "

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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #145 on: January 29, 2013, 07:27:06 PM »
I find this hard to believe.  Certainly this was not the case even a few years ago.  ???


Straight men more stressed, depressed than gay men, study says
by Monte Morin
 
A Canadian study on anxiety and sexual orientation suggests that heterosexual men suffer more depression and higher levels of stress than gay and bisexual men.

The study, published Monday in the journal Psychosomatic Medicine, involved 87 men and women in Montreal, and sought to determine whether gays, lesbians and bisexuals experienced reduced stress and anxiety after "coming out of the closet."

Study subjects were asked to fill out diagnostic questionnaires for depression, anxiety and burnout. They were also subjected to blood, urine and saliva tests to gauge their level of cortisol, a stress hormone, and examined for other health indicators.

Authors said they were not surprised to find that homosexuals who had disclosed their sexual orientation to friends and family showed fewer signs of depression than those who had yet to come out. However, they said they did not anticipate that the overall systemic stress, or allostatic load, measured in straight men would exceed all groups.

"Interestingly and contrary to our hypothesis, gay and bisexual men had significantly lower depressive symptoms and allostatic load levels than heterosexual men," wrote lead author Robert-Paul Juster, a neuroscientist at McGill University.

Heterosexual men registered a third higher on an index of allostatic load compared with gay and bisexual men. In contrast, lesbian and bisexual women ranked higher than heterosexual women on the index.

Noting that clinical indexes for stress include measures of body weight and fat, authors speculated that it was possible that gay and bisexual men focused more on maintaining thinness and muscularity than straight men.

They speculated also that gay and bisexual men may have developed better coping strategies than straight men.

"It has been proposed that certain kind of stigma-related stresses can produce adaptive behavioral responses that make individuals more resilient and effective at managing future stressors," authors wrote.

The study was among the first to examine stress levels among gays who were out, and those who remained closeted. Study subjects were recruited through advertisements online, in posters and through word of mouth.

The average age of study participants was 25 years old. Transgender individuals were excluded because potential changes in sex hormones could have influenced their test results.

Study authors noted that their conclusions were limited by several factors.

The study sample was not only small, but it also included an unequal proportion of lesbians and bisexual men, relative to gay men and bisexual women.

Also, study authors said that Montreal's liberal reputation and Canada's progressive social policies might make the results unique to the region.

"It is possible that healthier and hardier lesbians, gays and bisexuals are more likely to partake in such studies than LBGs struggling with psychosocial, distress and difficulties self-identifying as sexual minorities," authors wrote.

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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #146 on: January 29, 2013, 07:59:18 PM »
These diseases hide in our secrets…
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« Reply #147 on: February 26, 2013, 03:36:48 PM »
In reversal, Meg Whitman joins fight against Prop. 8
By Chris Megerian

When Meg Whitman ran for California governor as a Republican three years ago, she said marriage was "between a man and woman" and voiced her support for Proposition 8.

But after what she called "a period of careful review and reflection," Whitman has joined the legal fight to overturn the gay marriage ban approved by California voters in 2008.

She is one of dozens of Republicans who have signed a legal filing making a conservative case for Supreme Court justices to strike down the law. The court is scheduled to hear the case next month.

The legal filing was first reported by the New York Times.

Whitman, now chief executive of Hewlett-Packard, outlined her decision in a blog post, saying marriage leads to stronger communities and better homes for children.

"It makes no difference whether the marriage is between a man and woman or a woman and woman," she wrote. "Marriage makes society better."

She added, "Establishing a constitutional right of marriage equality in California will strengthen our nation as a whole."

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« Reply #148 on: March 07, 2013, 08:56:47 PM »
It’s time to overturn DOMA
By Bill Clinton, Thursday, March 7, 3:48 PM

The writer is the 42nd president of the United States.

In 1996, I signed the Defense of Marriage Act. Although that was only 17 years ago, it was a very different time. In no state in the union was same-sex marriage recognized, much less available as a legal right, but some were moving in that direction. Washington, as a result, was swirling with all manner of possible responses, some quite draconian. As a bipartisan group of former senators stated in their March 1 amicus brief to the Supreme Court, many supporters of the bill known as DOMA believed that its passage “would defuse a movement to enact a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, which would have ended the debate for a generation or more.” It was under these circumstances that DOMA came to my desk, opposed by only 81 of the 535 members of Congress.

On March 27, DOMA will come before the Supreme Court, and the justices must decide whether it is consistent with the principles of a nation that honors freedom, equality and justice above all, and is therefore constitutional. As the president who signed the act into law, I have come to believe that DOMA is contrary to those principles and, in fact, incompatible with our Constitution.

Because Section 3 of the act defines marriage as being between a man and a woman, same-sex couples who are legally married in nine states and the District of Columbia are denied the benefits of more than a thousand federal statutes and programs available to other married couples. Among other things, these couples cannot file their taxes jointly, take unpaid leave to care for a sick or injured spouse or receive equal family health and pension benefits as federal civilian employees. Yet they pay taxes, contribute to their communities and, like all couples, aspire to live in committed, loving relationships, recognized and respected by our laws.

When I signed the bill, I included a statement with the admonition that “enactment of this legislation should not, despite the fierce and at times divisive rhetoric surrounding it, be understood to provide an excuse for discrimination.” Reading those words today, I know now that, even worse than providing an excuse for discrimination, the law is itself discriminatory. It should be overturned.

We are still a young country, and many of our landmark civil rights decisions are fresh enough that the voices of their champions still echo, even as the world that preceded them becomes less and less familiar. We have yet to celebrate the centennial of the 19th Amendment, but a society that denied women the vote would seem to us now not unusual or old-fashioned but alien. I believe that in 2013 DOMA and opposition to marriage equality are vestiges of just such an unfamiliar society.

Americans have been at this sort of a crossroads often enough to recognize the right path. We understand that, while our laws may at times lag behind our best natures, in the end they catch up to our core values. One hundred fifty years ago, in the midst of the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln concluded a message to Congress by posing the very question we face today: “It is not ‘Can any of us imagine better?’ but ‘Can we all do better?’ ”

The answer is of course and always yes. In that spirit, I join with the Obama administration, the petitioner Edith Windsor, and the many other dedicated men and women who have engaged in this struggle for decades in urging the Supreme Court to overturn the Defense of Marriage Act.

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Re: GAY TALK with BayGBM
« Reply #149 on: March 12, 2013, 02:25:49 PM »
So who's G4P in NYC that isn't on rent boy?
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